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97,488 Floridians voted for Ralph Nader in 2000. Had Nader not been on the ballot in Florida, I think it's safe to say Al Gore would have benefited by a net increase of 30,000 votes there, a number larger than a "drop in the proverbial bucket."

My big gripe with Nader is that after that election he did not say, "Yeah, maybe our candidacy cost Gore and the Democrats the election. So what?"

Me, I'll never vote for any office holder who, from this day forward, votes to decrease Social Security benefits or limits the federal government's liability for those benefits. With that exception, I'll vote for any Democratic candidate for any federal office who unequivocally supports single payer health care for all and I'll vote for the highest polling opponent of any Democratic candidate who does not unequivocally support single payer health care for all whether or not that opponent is a Republican.

I want to wreck the careers of all corporate Democrats. It'll be up to the Democratic pollsters to identify those of us using this criteria. If my vote and the votes of like-minded Democrats end up costing a Democratic candidate an election win and someone asks me about it my response will be, "So what?"

Gore lost the election. That's what the numbers tell me, and I think it's what any serious look at them would tell anyone else. Gore had a double-digit lead in the polls going into the summer of 2000. He blew it by acting like the corporate tool I suspected he was.

The vote suppression had as much of an effect, maybe more, than Nader's candidacy. That's too bad, because if he'd polled ten percent or so, a realistic possibility if progressives weren't so afraid of giving the GOP the White House, it would have been clear that no Democrat could win without progressives, and they might have realized that the DLC road was a dead end.

Instead, we ended up with Kerry in 2004 and Obama in '08.

Whether a third party is a viable possibility to win office is immaterial. The Teabaggers are proving that. If your group is substantial enough to swing an election and it's willing to take its votes elsewhere, it matters. If it isn't willing to do that, it doesn't. That's what progressives aren't learning, and they'd better figure it out soon, or we'll be in this boat for a long, long time.

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