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So did anyone tune in to see it apart from bloggers? I didn't see it. Bush is a troll. Nothing he says is worth reading ever. Waste of time.

By the way on the invasion of Iran / Israeli bombing of Iran thing, did you notice that even the Dem blogs were repeating the lie that the Iranian president said the Holocaust was a myth?

I posted a comment at the Huffington Post when they posted this lie there.

Their title: "Iranian President: Holocaust A 'Myth' Used By Europeans To Create Jewish State In Heart Of Islamic World..."

A one word quote used to lie about what he said. As far as I can see fairly typical of the response. Wars of aggression remain bipartisan.

"Daddy" reminded me of noticing a quote by Andy Card during the campaign last year:

"It struck me as I was speaking to people in Bangor, Maine, that this president sees America as we think about a 10-year-old child,' Card said. ''I know as a parent I would sacrifice all for my children."

There you have it. Now sit down and behave. "Because I said so."

Incidentally, I followed up on the "myth" business. While I think David is right that the particular 12/14 AP article doesn't support the charge of Holocaust denial by Iranian president Ahmadinejad well, at least one Guardian article from earlier in December (12/9) does, in my opinion:

"Some European countries insist on saying that Hitler killed millions of innocent Jews in furnaces and they insist on it to the extent that if anyone proves something contrary to that they condemn that person and throw them in jail. Although we don't accept this claim, if we suppose it is true, etc. *

As publius writes at Legal Fiction, this seems classic diversionary politics: use arguably 'cute' language stepping right up to and often over the line to raise a big stink, so you're seen as sticking it to the big bad West. Diverts attention from what a zero ideas guy you are other than that. Not that we don't see the same kind of thing here in the US.

* The rest of the quote: "...our question for the Europeans is: 'Is the killing of innocent Jewish people by Hitler the reason for their support to the occupiers of Jerusalem?'") Which neatly frames the Israelis as Jerusalem-occupiers in the middle of an already inflammatory statement. I think Ahmadinejad and Karl Rove would get along just great.

I wouldn't accept that statement either. I would accept that as a good reason to ask the president what he meant by his remarks however.

The problem is, both statements only concern the Holocaust periferally and are dealing more with the mythology surrounding the Holocaust and in particular the way it is politicised by the State of Israel and Israel's supporters as a means to justify the on-going occupation of Jerusalem and the rest of Palestine.

It's clear he is talking about present day Palestine, not the events of world war two.

Instead of playing "gotcha" why not just ask, "Ok, sorry, what did you mean when you said XXX ?" I would guess he probably has made clearer what he meant but we haven't been told what he said. My impression is that western press is more interested in framing Iran as a threat and this may have something to do with how much of the "free" press is closely connected to the US government.

As a result we have the ironic situation where (even on the Left) people are more concerned with Iran allegedly dissenting over the history of one act of genocide than with Israel performing a genocide. Words become more important than the act.

I want to live with mommy.

MP: LOL. Me too.

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